please sort the list of passwords for a domain based on the server name

Thanks khad. If you guys implement the suggestions I will be ecstatic. I already highly recommend 1Password to everybody. :)

@khad

Thank you for pointing out ⌘. This will really help when I land on a page by following a link in email or something.

But my real problem is that if I have:
a.example.com
b.example.com
c.example.com
d.example.com

and I am currently on a.example.com, then 1Password won't take me to b.example.com when I tell it to. This is how I use 1Password as my bookmark manager.

Imagine I am sitting on a.example.com (my wiki server) and I want to go to b.example.com (my jira server). I would type option-⌘\ to bring up the menu, then I would type b.exam... this would bring up b.example.com in my list and I would press enter.

At this point what should happen is that it should take me to b.example.com's url and log me in. What really happens is NOTHING. It just sits there and does nothing. I suspect what it really did was look for the login fields and attempted to insert b.example.com's login information into any login fields on the current page. I consider this a bug because it is inconsistent behaviour to the way that doing that workflow would work if I was on something like www.agilebits.com. If i was sitting on www.agilebits.com, doing the above steps would take me to b.example.com and log me in.

Thanks
Greg

OK I know this is a bit old now, but I am still faced with the same problem.

I did look at the 1Click bookmarks, but the reality is that I have stopped using bookmarks entirely because of 1Password. The option-cmd-\ hot key has completely removed my need for bookmarks. When I want to go somewhere, I just type option-cmd-\ "some keyword for where I want to go"

Based on what you are telling me, I have the wrong mental model of what option-cmd-\ does. I view it as Go & Fill. But clearly it has been designed to be Fill & Submit. But then what is the difference between that and option-\? Why have two hot keys that are so close in functionality?

If I land on a page that needs me to log in and I have 5 different logins for that site, then hitting option-\ does the right thing, it opens up the dialog and allows me to select one of the 5 logins and submits it without navigating. So what is the real purpose of option-cmd-\ if not to be a Go & Fill?

Maybe my request is really to put in a hot key for "Go & Fill", then let me map it to option-cmd-.

I just looked in the UI to see if it already exists, but it doesn't. But what I did notice is that the option-cmd-\ is really a hot key to bring up the pop-up and nothing more. So given that, I would really like a hot key that maps to "Go & Fill". Go & Fill would then always follow the URL.

Greg

Hi Khad

First Happy Canada day (almost) from Waterloo. :)

Ok, I can tell in this thread and the other thread I started with a different, but related request that I am not making myself clear.

Let me start by saying that I am not alone in these requests. I started using 1Password a couple years ago and now I recommend that all my employees get it and use it and I show them my workflow.

What I realized yesterday when reading your old response is that the disconnect here is that you guys don't seem to have the same understanding of the use of option-cmd-\ that I and my colleague do. I don't view option-cmd-\ as the hot key to open up the extension menu. I view it as a hot key to "Go and Fill". In fact it was yesterday when I realized for the first time that this hot key is really only to open up the extension menu.

I think we are at the point where you guys need to realize that customers are using your product in a way (workflow) that you didn't intend or expect. I would classify this use as a replacement for bookmarks with a keyboard driven search mechanism. One of the pains of using bookmarks is that I have to take my hands off the keyboard and use my mouse to use the book marks to go to a site. And I have hundreds of entries in 1Password, I would never create that many bookmarks.

In fact, as I think about Apple putting password management into iOS and MacOS, I would think that augmenting 1Password to be a fantastic bookmark management system that also does password management would be a good differentiation. You have good bookmark sync'ing, you have bookmarks on steroids because you have the passwords stored with them. And then you focus on fantastic UI to wrap it all up and it is a product I would continue to buy and support regardless of Apple having built in password management.

Ok enough of the background. I went through that to get you into the frame of mind of bookmark management. You are so close now, there are just some very annoying things in the workflow that get in the way. And I am realizing that they are getting in the way because you guys don't seem to see yourselves as a bookmark management tool.

So here are a couple use cases that will hopefully illustrate what I am asking for.

Let's assume that there are three hot keys that do the following functions:
1 - fill and submit - when you are on a page that is requesting your user name and password, you can hit this key (cmd-\ today) and it fills in the password, just like it does today. if there are multiple matches, it brings up the menu to choose. BTW, jira.company.com shouldn't be considered a conflict when I am sitting on wiki.company.com and there is an entry for wiki.company.com. It should just pick wiki.company.com and fill it in.

2- bring up the extension menu - this is just a hot key to do what it does today when I click on the key icon in the browser. No change here.

3- Go and Fill - this is the new hot key that is focused on bookmark management. This should bring up the extension menu and let me search. AS I search, it finds the most relevant items. When I select enter it goes to that URL and fills in the username/password regardless of which page I am on when I hit the key combination.

Ok now the user cases.

I get an email that makes me think I need to look something up on the wiki. I switch to safari and regardless of the page I am on, I hit hot key #3, search for wiki. the menu shows me wiki.company.com and I select enter. It takes me to the login page of the wiki and logs me in. This happens regardless of what page I was on. Even if I was on the page jira.company.com, it would still take me to wiki.compay.com and log me in.

I do this hundreds of times a day, the only difference is that right now I have to first make sure I open a new tab so that 1Password doesn't think that i want to fill in the current page. How can 1Password know that I don't want to fill in the current page? Because I told it to "Go and Fill", rather than just opening up the extension menu and seeing what logins are available for this domain. The go and fill feature would always go and then fill.

Second use case:

I was logged into salesforce.com 20 minutes ago, but I closed the window. Salesforce still thinks I am logged in. I hit hot key #3 - type sales and hit enter because it matches salesforce.com. Go and Fill takes me to the salesforce window and realizes that there is no entry for logging in because I am already logged in. Instead of trying to fill in random fields, it doesn't fill in anything and just leaves me logged in.

Third use case:

I recently purchased something from OWC and had to create an account. Of course, I want that account stored in 1Password. But there is a problem here because OWC put "sales" in their URL. So now when I want to use hot key #3 to Go and Fill to log me into salesforce.com, my workflow is messed up. What happens is that I hit the hot key, then type sales. This brings up two entries: OWC and Salesforce.com. Right now OWC is listed first because it comes alphabetically first, but Salesforce.com is the most relevant because its title matched what I typed rather than its URL matching. I would like to see Go and Fill sort the most relevant items first. The most relevant are the ones that match the title I gave them over the URL matching. Its great that OWC is presented as a choice because it does match, its just that it isn't the most relevant match and shouldn't be displayed first.

I hope this helps explain where I am coming from. You have made some comments about 1Password not being able to read my mind and I truly get that. I think that there are some great workflow improvements that can happen when you guys realize that it is more about managing bookmarks with passwords rather than managing passwords by storing some bookmarks.

I guess one way I could go is with the 1click bookmarks, but if I did that, what I would do is look for a bookmark manager that would give me a hot key interface to search my bookmarks, but once I had that, coupled with Apple's direction for password management, I would have much less need for 1Password, which hurts me to say.

Greg

Let's see if I can work this forum site. Where is the quote tool ...

I am not sure that I understand the distinction you are trying to make. The extension needs to be opened in order to use the "Go & Fill" feature. So ⌥⌘\ is the de facto shortcut for using Go & Fill entirely from the keyboard:

⌥⌘\
Begin typing to find the Login you want. You don't have to do anything else. Just open the extension and begin typing. (Optionally use the Up and Down arrow keys to narrow down the search if desired.)

Press Return to Go & Fill.
I use this constantly.

I do not agree with your assessment that ⌥⌘\ is the defacto hot key for "Go and Fill". BTW, I really intended to make up a new feature called "Go and Fill" because as far as I can tell it doesn't exist on its own right now. But first let me explain why I disagree that ⌥⌘\ is the defacto hot key.

You have repeatedly told me that ⌥⌘\ can't do what I want it to do because it would be either reading my mind or doing something inconsistent with what other people expect. Therefore it needs to be a different hot key. The ⌥⌘\ is for opening the extension window. And you are indicating that the common workflow that uses ⌥⌘\ to open the window is to find a password to use on the current screen.

So I need a new hot key that is exclusively going to open a new tab/window/re-use the current window to go to the URL that I select and automatically log me in. When I use this new hot key, I can guarantee you that I never want to use the selected credentials on the page I am currently on. So there is no more problem with 1Password having to read my mind or being confused because I have multiple logins for a domain. I am selecting an entry and it will always take me to that URL in that entry and will use the credentials to log me in.

The extension does actually fill without prompting as long as you have exactly one Login that matches the subdomain. If you have more than one Login for the subdomain you will be prompted. We would love to look more closely at this if you are having a different experience.

Correct. I see this behaviour. And when I want this behavour, I use the appropriate hot key of ⌘. I love it. It works perfectly.

It sounds like your feature request is to simply allow Go & Fill to "Go" even while viewing the domain of the site to which you are intending to "Go". You want to use Go & Fill for a different URL on the current domain you are viewing.

Yes, exactly. BTW, within a company, subdomains are just like completely different sites. I need to treat them as different sites. I will freely admit that I have not run into this outside of my corporate domain. Usually in the wild, I only have one password for each domain and the not distinguishing by subdomain is good.

This could be accomplished either by duplicating the Login item in the "Fill and Submit Login" and "Open Login in…" sections or by creating a completely separate window for Go & Fill. Does that sound about right?

Are you saying this is what the product developers could do? If so, then yes. What I would see as good is that when I hit the Go & Fill hot key, that separator bar you highlighted would now say Go & Fill as an indication that when I make a selection, I am leaving the page I am on.
Remember that the power here is that I don't have touch the mouse, so it is unacceptable to use ⌥⌘\ to bring up the extension, then use the mouse to click on that bar a couple of times to get to Go & Fill. Hitting the Go & Fill hot key should put the extension into the Go & Fill mode.

BTW, I do use Alfred. I am sure I could extract more power from it. I hadn't really thought of it for bookmarks so I gave it a try. It's not bad. I would prefer to search specifically for bookmarks. For instance, when I hit the alfred hot key and search for sales - lots of my documents come up. When I do the same thing in 1Password - just the salesforce.com bookmark comes up.

Thanks for listening.
Greg