Feature Request: Linked Accounts

Haravikk
Haravikk
Community Member
edited December 1969 in 1Password 3 – 7 for Mac
Multiple URLs for one Login, Equivalent Domains, Domain Aliases, etc.
One feature I've either missed, or that might be nice in future, is the ability to associate multiple domains with a single log-in entry. In my case I own multiple domains, however each hosts a stats readout (I believe a lot of web-hosting companies do this); it of course has a single log-in, but because of the multiple domains 1Password doesn't like it so much, but I'd rather avoid having entries for each one as I'd need to update them all if I change the password.

A bit of a specialised example I know, but some site-networks that use shared logins across the sites may run afoul in this way too. It's not a huge inconvenience, but to be able to have a log-in entry that covers multiple domains, or link multiple entries together somehow, would be neat, and possibly useful for some other cases as well, such as multiple sites under a single domain that use the same details, but with different form-layouts (secondlife.com is the biggest example of this I know of).
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  • dteare
    edited December 1969
    Haravikk wrote:
    One feature I've either missed, or that might be nice in future, is the ability to associate multiple domains with a single log-in entry.


    We are very close to adding the ability to associate domains and allow you to define them as "equivalent". For example, Logins saved for hotmail.com should be usable on live.com since they are indeed the same site. I hope this feature will see the light of day soon :)
  • kevinashworth
    kevinashworth
    Community Member
    edited December 1969
    +1
  • rob
    rob
    edited December 1969
    dteare wrote:
    I hope this feature will see the light of day soon :)


    Me too!
  • Perceptes
    edited December 1969
    Any update on this feature? I'd be really useful for me now that Steam is on the Mac, because the store is at steampowered.com, but the community site is steamcommunity.com and they both use the same account.
  • Nik
    Nik
    1Password Alumni
    edited December 1969
    Sorry, Perceptes, there's no update on this feature just yet.
  • fiokins
    fiokins
    Community Member
    edited December 1969
    For what it's worth +1 for this, I'm the victim of LDAP everywhere for pretty much every intranet site at my company; I don't really enjoy updating ~30 logins whenever they decide to force arbitrary password changes on me!
  • MartyS
    MartyS
    Community Member
    edited December 1969
    Thanks for letting us know it would be helpful to you, and welcome to the forums, fiokins!
  • Matt B
    edited December 1969
    dteare wrote:
    We are very close to adding the ability to associate domains and allow you to define them as "equivalent". For example, Logins saved for hotmail.com should be usable on live.com since they are indeed the same site. I hope this feature will see the light of day soon :)


    Oh, how marvelous this would be. I just purchased 1Password and was disappointed to see that it's not (yet) supported. I'm glad to see that something is in the works; I hope you're able to release it soon!
  • maik.tailor
    edited December 1969
    Yes! Now, I have to duplicate the entries for each login - and I have alot 1:1 copies of my webpages on my local machine..

    thx :)
  • bigethan
    edited December 1969
    I need this feature. Another LDAP at work person here, forced to change password every 90 days. Sadly, without this ability, it's easier to just not use 1password.
  • macpug
    macpug
    Community Member
    edited December 1969
    majost, maik.tailor, and bigethan: welcome to the forums! Hang in there with us, hopefully it won't be too much longer. I understand how frustrating it is to have to change the password every 90 days...I had to do that for nearly 5 years. I was forever forgetting my password!! Thanks for your support (and patience ;) )
  • bigethan
    edited December 1969
    I'm guessing you had to do it for five years before there was this crazy software called 1password that managed all your logins. Now that 1password exists my expectations have changed :-)

    Thanks in advance for any information you can provide on the status of this feature.
  • macpug
    macpug
    Community Member
    edited December 1969
    bigethan: absolutely!! Once 1P came along, everything changed for the better. We'll keep you updated as we know something. Cheers ;)
  • Nik
    Nik
    1Password Alumni
    edited December 1969
    bigethan wrote:
    Thanks in advance for any information you can provide on the status of this feature.

    We've made some progress on this. For example, 1Password understands that agile.ws and agilewebsolutions.com are the same. What we need to do to complete this feature is add an interface that would enable you to add your own domain aliases. I don't have a timeframe for when that will happen, but it's on our radar.
  • Haravikk
    Haravikk
    Community Member
    edited December 1969
    When you say that it detects they are the same, is this because when you log-in with your details it recognises that you've used the same details for agile.ws as you did for agilewebsolutions.com and offers to automatically link them? Being able to do it manually is of course awesome, but automatic detection will be most sweet :)
  • Nik
    Nik
    1Password Alumni
    edited December 1969
    Haravikk wrote:
    When you say that it detects they are the same, is this because when you log-in with your details it recognises that you've used the same details for agile.ws as you did for agilewebsolutions.com and offers to automatically link them? Being able to do it manually is of course awesome, but automatic detection will be most sweet :)

    That would be very cool, but 1Password doesn't have this sort of detection. Right now it's just been hard-coded, meaning 1Password has been told that domain A and domain B are the same.
  • bigethan
    edited December 1969
    Man, why you gotta tease like that :-) It's clearly a feature your devs wanted enough to hack into their own sites, but us paying customers don't rate enough to get a little bit of interface so that we can use it too.

    As a bit of user feedback, when I first ran into this I went into 1password thinking that I could add multiple domains / urls to an entry. Was surprised I couldn't, and headed here.

    Autodetection would be cool too: "Do you want to save this login or, alternately, add it to '
      '?
  • MartyS
    MartyS
    Community Member
    edited December 1969
    We'd kind of like to have an interface to it too but the facility needs some help internally. We've cobbled it together just enough to work in a limited number of cases. I'm sorry that it's not something that we can provide today (or even "tomorrow").
  • bigethan
    edited December 1969
    What does ""tomorrow"" mean? Because I'd happily take it a week from now. But if it's gonna be more than a year before the functionality is complete, then I'll just deal with it. That's the crux of the issue - should I wait bit to save myself some work, or will I be waiting for a long time and getting more and more frustrated as I wait.

    Thus far what I've heard is that: there's a version that works for a couple sites, but it won't be ready "tomorrow"

    I'm not as annoyed as this message sounds, just trying to get a decent answer.
  • MartyS
    MartyS
    Community Member
    edited December 1969
    bigethan wrote:
    What does ""tomorrow"" mean? Because I'd happily take it a week from now. But if it's gonna be more than a year before the functionality is complete, then I'll just deal with it. That's the crux of the issue - should I wait bit to save myself some work, or will I be waiting for a long time and getting more and more frustrated as I wait.

    Thus far what I've heard is that: there's a version that works for a couple sites, but it won't be ready "tomorrow"

    I'm not as annoyed as this message sounds, just trying to get a decent answer.


    That's fair to ask, but of course you probably already know that we cannot give a feature or bug fix release date for any of our products. If we were to 'slip' even for the best of reasons our customers would be disappointed.

    This capability is not something that you'll see extended to the user interface in the next several months. While it would be helpful -- we're in agreement there -- it does have a workaround which is to maintain additional Logins. Many features that we also agree need to be provided have no such workaround and we try to get those into your hands first... and there are boatloads of those features waiting to be implemented. Will this one be available to you in a week? No. Within a year? I honestly don't know. But we do know that it would help some customers greatly and it's something that we want to do.
  • Spaceman
    Spaceman
    Community Member
    edited December 1969
    I too would like this. At work, they are migrating several of our services (time cards, employee records, training request) to use a common UserID and Password although they are each on separate sites.

    I have a suggestion (which may be dumb but I throw it out there ;-).

    What if you could create a login entry like you do now, but not put in any domain info. We'll call this entry 'Master'.

    Then, for each of the various sites that use common UserID and Password you create their own Login items just like you do today, however, instead of actually putting in a UserID and Password, you (Agile) provide some kind of link that actually reads the UserID and Password from the 'Master' file created above. It would be something similar to an 'Alias' on the Mac or a Cell 'Reference' similar to Excel.

    So, when you want to log into your 'Time Card' site (as an example), the ID and Password fields in the 'Time Card' login screen don't actually contain this information but contain something like '<Master>' that would pull that info from the 'Master' login entry.

    This seems like it would be easier than trying to take one entry and associating it with multiple domains.

    What do you think?

    Regards,

    Spaceman
  • Spaceman
    Spaceman
    Community Member
    edited December 1969
    Hi Stu,

    No problem. I just seems to me that doing it this way would be the simplest (that's from a non-programmer ;-). Each individual 'Login' item could keep it's own URL, notes, title and any other info you have entered. You have just told it to go look in another 'common' location to retrieve the UserID and Password. That way, every 30 or 60 or 90 days when your work requires you to update your password for all these sites, you only have to change it once (in the 'Master' login item). I can see where it would probably have to be a manual process but that is fine with me and still is much easier than it is now.

    And if that picture of you is while your in your 'office', I'll trade you my whiteboard and office any day. ;-)

    Regards,

    Spaceman
  • dlouzan
    edited December 1969
    Quick question: when you say "multiple domains", are you referring to just DNS or IP also? I manage several clustered internal machines with no DNS configuration (172.16.X.X or 10.X.X.X) and this functionality would be fantastic.
  • Nik
    Nik
    1Password Alumni
    edited December 1969
    dlouzan wrote:
    Quick question: when you say "multiple domains", are you referring to just DNS or IP also? I manage several clustered internal machines with no DNS configuration (172.16.X.X or 10.X.X.X) and this functionality would be fantastic.

    We're referring to the what appears in the URL field. So I could tell 1Password that amazon.com = amazon.co.uk and use the same login on both sites. I am not absolutely certain about this, but I see no reason why that wouldn't automatically extend to IP addresses as well.
  • Hi guys,

    it would be great if you could add the functionality to "link" passwords to multiple sites.
    For example, many sites use the Google Account to log in, so it would be great if I could link one user/pass to multiple site addresses. Then I only have to update it once in 1password when I change the password, not for every linked site.

    Kind regards,
    A.
  • Granite Mac
    Granite Mac
    Community Member
    I access 15 different URLs at work that all use my corporate Windows NT login. Because the URLs differ, 1Password treats each of these sites as if they have different usernames and passwords.

    As a result, I end up with 14 duplicates of my NT password, requiring me to cut and paste my password 14 times in 1Password every time I update my NT password.

    Would love ability to save multiple URLs to the same password entry.
  • teedoff087
    teedoff087
    Community Member
    edited December 2010
    Do all of the logins use the same top-level domain? If so, you could probably just change the URL in 1Password to the top-level domain.

    For instance, if you had the same login for pages that use the login.google.ws domain, you could change the domain in 1Password to http://login.google.ws/. The way I understand 1Password works when you fill a login is it searches for the current URL against your 1Password entries. If your domain for that particular entry only differs by page name (i.e. http://login.google.ws/1.html vs. http://login.google.ws/2.html), it will choose the login credentials for that particular page. Changing the domain name in 1Password to a simpler form should allow that entry to work on all pages in that domain.

    It might help if you give an example of the different URLs you're working with (not the real ones, of course, but just to get an idea).

    P.S. You might want to make a backup of your Agile keychain just in case this doesn't work. That way you don't have to go back and add all 14 entries.
  • khad
    khad
    1Password Alumni
    Thanks for the feedback!

    This suggestion has come up from time to time. Thank you for letting us know it would be useful to you as well! We will look into improving this in a future update, but I do not have a time frame for a specific version.
  • placebo
    placebo
    Community Member
    khad wrote:

    Thanks for the feedback!

    This suggestion has come up from time to time. Thank you for letting us know it would be useful to you as well! We will look into improving this in a future update, but I do not have a time frame for a specific version.

    I'd also like to see this suggestion implemented. A related issue is the ability to link entries in the Accounts vault to URLs as well. For example, my MobileMe account is also the Apple ID I use at various Apple web sites.

    I guess the best way to put it is that 1Password should consider the account to be the fundamental entity. Right now, the location is the fundamental object, and you have accounts associated with each location. If the same accounts can be used at different locations, you often end up with multiple entries in 1Password with the same account information, which sort of defeats the goal of having your information stored in just one place.
  • sergiomiranda
    sergiomiranda
    Community Member
    edited December 2010
    khad wrote:

    Thanks for the feedback!

    This suggestion has come up from time to time. Thank you for letting us know it would be useful to you as well! We will look into improving this in a future update, but I do not have a time frame for a specific version.


    I believe something like this (multiple domains on one item/link item) has been asked more than from time to time, it has been asked repeatedly and it has been said to be "coming soon" for a long time too.
    http://forum.agile.ws/index.php?/topic/64-suggestion-single-login-multiple-domains/

    Don't get me wrong, I love 1password, but I have been waiting for a long, long time to cut down my saved passwords by a huge number and make my life (even) simpler with this feature that seems so basic for a password manager.

    How about a Christmas present? :)
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