Let me say up front, the title of this post is a little bit extravagant for a purpose, it's meant in a good sense. I am a programmer and after spending many hours reading user guides and searching the Forms I keep running into a few common themes which the different ways to address them have been a bit confusing and some left unanswered.. Hopefully bringing all of them to one place for the current date will be helpful to me as hopefully others.
My goal is as stated in the title, I want to Start over with 1Password Families. Again. I have programmed on Window as well as Macs/IOS so please don't bypass any ideas/solutions which is above the head of the average user. If needed, after we come up with a working solution, if helpful, I will conclude this post with hopefully a short tutorial for the general user if need be.
I started out with a license for 1Password 6 for Mac and installed it and realized it didn't give me the flexibility to use it for my family and discovered you had two new products, Families and Teams. I wrote an email to you support people about migrating what I had over to a trial version of Families to check it out. And any issues I need to look for. I was assured it would migrate without problems. So I used the following links to create a Family account migrate my existing stand alone version to Families http:/support.1password.com/teams-families-setup/mac.html http:/support.1password.com/teams-families-migrate/mac.html. As well as deleting any thing to do with Dropbox. All worked well and I moved all of my logins, etc over to the new Families vaults. Then set up Families on my wife's Mac as well as each of our iPads/iPhones.
Up front, all devices work fine but as many have mentioned on the forums there are a few things which could have been included in Families First release which could have made it a little better. Again, I understand what it takes to develop and implement a product as you guys have and realize the huge effort it is. So again this is not to complain, I am just trying to get some clarity and hopefully help others. One issue I may mention is the User Guides specifically for the Families/Teams, It is written mostly using the word Teams and some of the examples are Team specific and the difference between the two is confusing.
Let me ask a stupid question. I probably missed this one. When using the Forums, the dates on each Post/Repliey only display the Month and Day, not the Year. I assume all of your forum posts are not all just for 2016. Am I missing something. How can I know this is a recent post which is more up to date or something a year ago which has already been addressed and is no longer an issue?
Now that I have my wife's and my devices migrated I found the following issues which have been a topic of conversation on a lot of posts from people who originally had the stand alone version of 1Password for Mac and later migrated to Families or Teams without "Completely stripping" any sign of the previous version from their Mac.
The Primary vault create when installing the stand alone version of 1Password for Mac is still there and cannot be deleted unless you do a reset or "start over" http:/support.1password.com/starting-over/mac.html .
With further reading after doing the start over above and adding back in your devices, there were many asking how to delete the duplicate Device entries. That also cannot be done as they were imported with the new startup from some previous data. I assume from the Online account where the vaults are stored was still there and active.
Someone from your team said they could have your whole Families account deleted and then these items would not be imported during a new install.
Someone also mentioned of a Reset Utility which sounds like an automated version of the "Start Over" process mentioned in #1 above. I found Two links, one for version 1Password 4 and 1Password 5 but not for version 6.
Now for my final last few questions, my goal is to "completely strip" every thing on all of my devices that is installed with both the stand alone version of 1Pasasword for Mac and the Familes version and also the same for my IOS devices. The following are my assumptions and if I understand should clean up sone of the issues.
Make a backup of my vaults and export a .crv file of the contents of each vault which has all the data I need to re-create my data as well as the passwords to the sites as need.
Follow the Mac and IOS Start Over links and delete all of the files, plists, etc in all of the suggested folders. I will not need to use the Reset Utility because there isn't a current version and there isn't any hint what it really does. Then move the apps on the Macs and all IOS Devices to the trash and shut each device off and on (Probably over kill), a reboot would probably be fine).
E-mail Support and have them "Delete my current Families account which should clean out anything which when installing the new apps will be picked up and brought back into the new setup.
What about the license for my original 1Password for Mac, should that be removed on you end also ?
Question: When I create a new Families account after the old one is deleted, can I use the same account name ? Or must it be different ?
From here just download the apps I need fresh from your site and add in the same vaults I have previously as well as the Logins, Etc. This should at least take care of the "Primary vault on Mac OS X and Not create andy duplicate devices.
Last I read the Primary vaults in IOS will still be there and a solution to remove those has not been released yet.
Sorry for the long, long post but I really like the functionality of Families and want to signup after the trial,. but all the extra stuff is driving me nuts. "Perfection Issue!"
And please if you have a better way or additions to what I am preposing to do please don't be shy...
Many thanks in advance..