"Change Master Password" does not display in Preferences

Gnurps
Gnurps
Community Member

After years with a standalone, v.3 app, we moved to a Family account. The iMac which was the master should no longer be the master. Master is on a laptop. Invited the iMac as a family member and it is signed in, but still using the old password. In 1PW->Preferences->Security, the iMac does not display the option to Change Master Password. Why?

The iMac still has a local, Dropbox-synced vault, as does the laptop. I know it's time to delete the local accounts. If I do this first on the iMac, what are the consequences?


1Password Version: 6.8.5
Extension Version: Not Provided
OS Version: OS X El Capitan
Sync Type: Dropbox, not iCloud

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  • Lars
    Lars
    1Password Alumni

    Hey @Gnurps - thanks for the question, and welcome to the brave new world of 1Password membership. The transition can be a little disorienting if you've never done it, but don't worry; you won't lose your data (assuming you have backups of everything). It's one of those Catch-22s: once you've done it once, you see how easy it is, and you're totally qualified to do it, quite quickly and efficiently, again. Only now you no longer need to. 😕

    Anyway, here's the lowdown: you should be inviting people, not computers. The difference - and it is one you have to wrap your mind and the way you think about things around - is that the "master" is actually now the record on 1password.com servers. Once you've gotten all your data moved over, you can just sign in from any device you like, and all your data will be there, virtually instantly. To get your data migrated (and assuming you were syncing your data previously so that all 1Password instances have the same data), use a desktop (it's just easier). Then use these instructions to migrate your data from the local vault to your 1Password Families vault(s). Assuming you had only one local "Primary" vault, 1Password should make this process relatively straightforward and automated, including offering to remove the local vault for you.

    Once that's done -- and you're certain all your data is now in your 1Password Families account, you can actually feel free to just delete the Primary vault on the other devices by (on desktop Macs) going to Preferences > Advanced and un-checking the box marked "Allow creation of vaults outside of 1password accounts." That will remove your Primary vault and allow you to run the 1Password Families account only (with its Master Password). On iOS devices, again assuming you have no data there that isn't redundant, delete 1Password and re-install, and at the Welcome (new user) screen, choose 1password.com account to sign in, and you'll be account-only. :)

  • Gnurps
    Gnurps
    Community Member

    Why does the invited family member's 1Password not display the option to Change Master Password?

  • Lars
    Lars
    1Password Alumni

    @Gnurps - because it sounds like they're using only the 1password.com vault(s). If your family members want to change the Master Password for their 1password.com account(s), they will need to do that on the web by signing into their account in a browser. Follow the instructions at that link to change the Master Password. If you (or they) have local vaults in addition to the 1password.com vaults, you'll see the prompt to change your Master Password within 1Password for Mac itself.

  • Gnurps
    Gnurps
    Community Member

    Now I understand. Very helpful!

  • Lars
    Lars
    1Password Alumni

    @Gnurps - you're quite welcome! To be clear, you can change your Master Password within 1Password for Mac -- but the process varies depending on whether your Master Password for 1Password for Mac was created with a local vault or a 1password.com account. If you have a 1password.com account added to 1Password for Mac, you can go to the Preferences > Accounts tab and you'll see the option to change your Master Password there. But it can be confusing for people who aren't clear on the differences between standalone local data and 1password.com accounts. And if you have both, for example, you can see the Change Master Password option in both places -- but one will change the Master Password for the local vault (and 1Password for Mac), while the other one will change the Master Password only for your 1password.com account.

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