1Password Mini in V7 has added clicks

FogCityNativeFogCityNative Junior Member

I like a lot of what I see in 1Password Version 7.

But the one thing I miss terribly is the windows that open automatically that were in V6 but removed in V7. Now, I read the notes and read the part about the interface being still in development.

But I liked when I would hover the mouse over a password in the list, that password would open in a window. If I needed to copy the username or login password, I just slid my mouse over to "copy" (or "reveal").

In V7, I now must click on the > in the circle on the far right to open the window that used to open automatically. This is the one thing in V7 I absolutely hate. The automatically appearing windows in V6 (and earlier) were elegant. The added click is not elegant and not needed.

I hope this change is just temporary in order to get the beta out for testing and not part of a new interface design. If the added click was intentional, I hope you will restore the elegant functioning of V6 in the final V7 release.


1Password Version: 7.00000019
Extension Version: 4.7.1.90
OS Version: OS X 10.13.3
Sync Type: AgileBits Subscription

Comments

  • brentybrenty

    AgileBits Team Member

    @FogCityNative: I'm not sure I understand what "window" you're referring to, but you can still mouseover most fields in 1Password and click to copy:

    But you don't need to copy and paste passwords at all in most cases: you can use ⌘ \ too fill the login for the current page; or if you have 1Password mini open, pressing Return or clicking the selected item will fill. You can also use or the ( > ) icon to view the item details when necessary.

  • FogCityNativeFogCityNative Junior Member

    Things like credit card or passport. Sometimes these fields cannot be auto-filled.

    The previous version would "cascade" on mouse over, opening windows as it went, so as a user all I had to do was move the mouse slightly until the window I wanted appeared. It was very elegant compared to the clunky way the new interface feels. My muscle memory screams when using this version. I really do not like the clunky-ness. The previous versions never required scrolling in a box. The log-in, pw, and 2FA were all visible without any scrolling.

    My I suggest a "fill" icon or button rather than just a key combo or pressing return which is much less intuitive.

    Someone who has never seen 1P should be able to figure it out in less than a minute. The program should almost intuit what I might want to do next. This one feels like it is just sitting there waiting for me to do something. So, sorry but I just don't like the look and feel of the new interface. I hope you can understand what I am describing.

    Also I am not seeing any pop-up notifications when the 2FA code is auto-saved to the clipboard and then the clipboard restored. Maybe they are there and I am just missing them..

  • JacobJacob

    AgileBits Team Member

    @FogCityNative Thanks for the feedback! There are certainly some improvements to be made here and we're still working on some of them. :)

    Also I am not seeing any pop-up notifications when the 2FA code is auto-saved to the clipboard and then the clipboard restored. Maybe they are there and I am just missing them..

    They should be showing in the top right of your screen. If you don't see them, open System Preferences and click Notifications. Click 1Password in the list and make sure Banners or Alerts are enabled.

  • FogCityNativeFogCityNative Junior Member

    I submitted a new comment with a screenshot showing you exactly where the new click is required. Here it is again:

  • FogCityNativeFogCityNative Junior Member

    In older versions this was a mouse over, not a click.

  • brentybrenty

    AgileBits Team Member

    Indeed, thanks for clarifying. Many users — myself included — found the flyout menus pretty fiddly and just wanted to fill most of the time, so we've made "Fill" the default action there (Return). If you want to view the item details, you can click the ( > ) or press on the keyboard. But we'll continue to listen to feedback to see if others have similar feelings. Cheers! :)

  • DerimagiaDerimagia
    edited June 13

    As someone who doesn't like autofilling and prefers copying to clipboard, a way to change the default is really needed. My workflow got more clunky with the update. Right clicking also doesn't do anything currently, so adding this back to bring up a context menu would be nice.

  • brentybrenty

    AgileBits Team Member

    @Derimagia: I'm sorry, but copy and paste is not something we're going to prioritize over filling. The vast majority of 1Password users use 1Password's filling because it's more convenient, but others still use it because it's more secure. The clipboard can be accessed by any app, and that includes web browsers. Filling bypasses this. So it isn't our focus.

    That said, I'm sorry that you find the new setup clunky, and we'll be streamlining it as we continue to iterate on the design. I can't promise that we'll make the specific changes you're asking for, but we'll be taking your feedback into account along with everyone else's to see what will allow us to help the most people with future updates.

  • I get the security of it, bu there is also security in auto-filling as if something is matched incorrectly the site could read it.

    However the main thing that filling doesn't work for is non-web passwords. API Credentials, Server Creds, Repo creds, etc. And for some reason now it's harder to get to the main vault (The default global key doesn't bring up the main interface anymore?) so getting to copy and paste these has become a pain.

    The overall experience is mainly still good. It's just less focused on people who aren't just using simple website creds. I get the default settings, I can't say I understand not having the options to change some of them though.

  • brentybrenty

    AgileBits Team Member

    I get the security of it, bu there is also security in auto-filling as if something is matched incorrectly the site could read it.

    @Derimagia: If you mean that autofill can be a security and privacy issue, we're in agreement on that, which is why 1Password never autofills; it only takes an action when you tell it to.

    However the main thing that filling doesn't work for is non-web passwords. API Credentials, Server Creds, Repo creds, etc. And for some reason now it's harder to get to the main vault (The default global key doesn't bring up the main interface anymore?) so getting to copy and paste these has become a pain.

    Can you elaborate on these two(?) issues? There may already be a solution, or perhaps there's something we can improve in a future version. But to clarify, if you want to be able to fill login credentials in the web browser, definitely use a Login item for that, as that's expressly what they're designed for. I know it can be tempting to use a "Server" or "Password" item for this purpose, but when what you want is browser-based login-filling functionality, Logins are the way to go. But again, I'm sorry if I've misunderstood some of your comments. Either way, I'm sure that more details will be beneficial. :)

    The overall experience is mainly still good. It's just less focused on people who aren't just using simple website creds. I get the default settings, I can't say I understand not having the options to change some of them though.

    Having behaviours changeable means more development, more testing, and more opportunities for user confusion. So unless there's going to be a much greater net benefit, we try to avoid adding additional options. But they're absolutely something we're always willing to consider on a case-by-case basis.

    Thank you for not only your kind words, but also your constructive criticism. Both are greatly appreciated, and motivate us to make 1Password even better. :)

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