How do I purchase a standalone license of 1Password 7?

I'm appalled that I'm even feeling compelled to ask the forums this, but I just cannot find the option on the website and Google hasn't been very helpful. I'm not and will not consider a membership, I would just like to buy 1Password 7 for Mac.


1Password Version: 6.8.9
Extension Version: Not Provided
OS Version: macOS 10.13.5
Sync Type: Not Provided

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  • BenBen AWS Team

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    Hi @rwayy,

    Thanks for your interest. You can find that information here:

    1Password 7 for Mac: The Best Ever - AgileBits Blog

    and here:

    Upgrade to 1Password 7 for Mac

    While 1Password membership is going to offer the best value if you decide you’d like to license 1Password 7 for Mac that is an option as well. I hope that helps!

    Ben

  • dancodanco Senior Member Community Moderator

    On the first Welcome screen for 1PW7 there is a big green button saying Subscribe Now and beneath it in small print is "Need a licence. We have those too", and that line is a clickable link that starts the purchase procedure.

  • BenBen AWS Team

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    There is no link for purchasing. The purchase has to be made in the app, as danco mentioned. Pricing and instructions are in the links I provided above.

    Ben

  • edited November 2018

    I found my answer.

  • BenBen AWS Team

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    Great. :+1:

    Ben

  • @Ben I know it is an older thread, but let me get back into it.

    I am currently a happy user of 1Password (7); I have started the yearly subscription not a long time ago. I have been using it for 3 different devices and it works well.

    However, I must admit that I only recently found out that you actually give the possibility of purchasing a single license for the program instead of the yearly subscription and the price of a single license is comparable to that yearly fee. The yearly fee is not cheap but I accepted it so far, but now I have to ask myself the question what am I really buying that I would not get with as single purchase fee.

    I saw some angry comments on the Mac App store on the subscription change, and one of your colleagues posted a link to a blog which (I presume) gives some explanation: http://blog.agilebits.com/2018/05/10/getting-1password-7-ready-for-the-mac-appstore/. Alas, that URL goes to a 404, I presume this is due to you guys have changed your blogging environment.

    So... is there somewhere a page that gives a clear comparison of what one buys with the yearly subscription vs. a one time fee? I may well stay at my current setup because, as I said, I am otherwise a happy customer, but I would prefer to have a clear set of information.

    Thank you

    Ivan Herman

  • BenBen AWS Team

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    Hi @iherman

    The regular price of a standalone license is $65 USD plus any applicable taxes and covers one person for one version of 1Password on one platform. For example, a 1Password 7 for Mac license allows one person to use 1Password v7 for Mac and any in-version updates. It does not include a hypothetical 1Password 8 for Mac or any version of 1Password for Windows. It also does not include access to our 1Password.com service (which means no access to 1Password X, the 1Password CLI, or the my.1password.com web interface). When using 1Password standalone you alone are entirely responsible for configuring any syncing or off-site backups you wish to happen with a 3rd party service (i.e. Dropbox or iCloud). We do not store your encrypted 1Password data. There is no support for securely sharing data with another person. Additionally there is absolutely no way to reset or recover a forgotten Master Password for a standalone vault.

    With membership you get access to all of the latest versions of 1Password on all platforms. We also have multi-user options such as 1Password Families and 1Password Business. These options allow for secure sharing of 1Password data. Membership also becomes the sync and off-site backup service: no manual configuration required. Everything is automatically synced between your devices simply by signing into your account. Additionally your data is stored off-site (as well as being cached locally on each of your devices) so a disaster like a fire, flood, loss or theft of a device, damage to a device, etc does not result in the total loss of your 1Password data. This also includes the 1Password.com service which allows for the use of some of our newer offerings like 1Password X and the 1Password CLI. It also provides the https://my.1Password.com web interface. With a multi-user membership it is possible another administrator on your membership can help recover a forgotten Master Password. Unfortunately individual memberships do not have this option. We are never able to assist someone with recovery (beyond providing instructions for how to do so).

    We did indeed recently change blogging platforms. Much of the content has been carried over but some has not, or at least not yet. Our content team is working hard on bringing over anything that is still applicable. I think the most pertinent posts to what you're asking about would be these two:

    We are no longer actively marketing the standalone offering. You won't see it mentioned on any of our marketing pages. We do still make it available for customers who are comfortable with the aforementioned terms, who know that is what they want, and are comfortable with the "DIY" aspect that comes along with it. 1Password.com is the way forward and is the best way to use 1Password.

    I hope that helps clarify the situation, but if you have any further questions we'd be happy to help.

    Ben

  • @ben, I appreciate your reply and I understand it. I think (having also read some comments on the Mac app store) that making these arguments way more clear and accessible to the public might be a good thing (even if understanding that you do not want to market the standalone version). But I also understand this is a business decision, which is none of my business (sic!).

    For the record, I stay with my current setup:-)

  • BenBen AWS Team

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    Thanks for the feedback @iherman. The key is to make this information more clear and available to the people that need it without causing confusion for new customers who without mention of it would never have been confused. Glad to hear you're happy with your setup and will be sticking with it.

    Ben

  • What constitutes a platform? I own 5 MacOS computers all of which have 1Password 6.89 installed. Does this constitute 1 platform or 5?

  • BenBen AWS Team

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    @RedRyder

    Platforms are Mac, Windows, iOS, Android, etc. If all of your devices are Macs then you have one platform: Mac. :)

    I hope that helps. Should you have any other questions or concerns, please feel free to ask.

    Ben

  • So, with one platform I could purchase one 1P7 license and use it on my three compatible Macs (two are older MacOSs which would continue as 1P6.89).

  • BenBen AWS Team

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    Yes. :)

    Ben

  • Hi,

    I'm so confused with 1P v7.

    I know this is probably a dumb question and just to confirm what I've read, does a stand alone purchase for 1P v7 work on all my Apple devices or just one only? I've been a 1P user for many, many years (I love it & don't want to change) & am currently using V6.8.9 for my MacBook Pro, iMac, iPhone & iPad all of which are running the current IOS.

    Further, if my understanding is correct the cost of v7 will be a one oft cost until you invent v8 in the future and then I would have to pay again?

    Apologies for my lack of comprehension. 🙃

  • brentybrenty

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    I know this is probably a dumb question and just to confirm what I've read, does a stand alone purchase for 1P v7 work on all my Apple devices or just one only?

    @Jenene: Not a dumb question at all! I'm sorry for the confusion. Standalone license purchases are for the specific version. So, if you buy 1Password or Mac version 7, you can use 1Password for Mac version 7 on all of your Macs; the Windows, iOS, or Android apps would each be a separate purchase.

    Further, if my understanding is correct the cost of v7 will be a one oft cost until you invent v8 in the future and then I would have to pay again?

    Correct.

    The only way to get all of the apps and updates is with a 1Password membership subscription, since what you're paying for isn't the apps themselves (which in most cases can only be purchased through competing app stores), but rather the account, which you can use across all your devices.

    I hope this helps. Be sure to let me know if you have any other questions! :)

  • Steve_RSteve_R
    edited February 20

    brenty said >> The only way to get all of the apps and updates is with a 1Password membership subscription, since what you're paying for isn't the apps themselves (which in most cases can only be purchased through competing app stores), but rather the account, which you can use across all your devices.

    me: NOW I "get it:" a subscription is buying an account, as opposed to buying the apps themselves. What a great way to put it. Thanks, brenty, you the man!

    It's like paying a membership fee to an airplane-sharing club or buying your own plane: the club keeps you flying with the latest features in navigation and safety and in the latest models, does all the service and maintenance and lifetime warranty repairs; buy just the vehicle instead of a membership and you'll get some warranty period support (fixes, recall, aka SW upgrades for that major version number only (e.g. 1Pwd 4, 5, 6, or 7)), but after that warranty period, you're on your own.

  • BenBen AWS Team

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    I think that is about as close of an analogy as is possible. :) Thanks, @Steve_R. Glad Brenty's post helped clarify.

    Ben

  • romadromad Member

    With membership you get access to all of the latest versions of 1Password on all platforms. We also have multi-user options such as 1Password Families and 1Password Business. These options allow for secure sharing of 1Password data. Membership also becomes the sync and off-site backup service: no manual configuration required. Everything is automatically synced between your devices simply by signing into your account.

    Well, as a single user who doesn't (and never has) own a business, uses ONLY Mac & iOS products, does NOT use "the cloud", and whose wife refuses to touch a computer or smartphone, I obviously am not your target user! In my case, the standalone 1Password product is the only solution. If it goes away, then Agile will unfortunately lose my business.

  • BenBen AWS Team

    Team Member

    You're using "the cloud" right now. :) But understood. :+1:

    Ben

  • romadromad Member

    Not in the sense that all of my passwords are stored on someone else's computers/servers, Ben. I only have Mail and Find my iDevice enabled in iClod, nothing else. I am the only one who uses my iMac which is located in my locked house and I only manually sync my iDevices to the iMac. When I'm researching software, any that requires I store my sensitive data on their servers is an automatic fail.

    At least AgileBits "gets it" and doesn't go the draconian "one size fits all" route which most of us appreciate.

  • BenBen AWS Team

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    Well, fortunately 1Password doesn't store your sensitive data on our servers even when using 1Password membership. 1Password data is end-to-end encrypted, regardless of how it is synced. But I digress; I believe that may be an argument we've already had. No point rehashing it.

    Ben

  • @Ben, In this thread I see you talking about "membership." That is an excellent way to put it.

  • Steve_RSteve_R
    edited February 21

    I think my edits took me past the edit time window, so here's a re-do.

    @Ben, In this thread I see you referring to "membership." That is an excellent way to put it!

    I am speaking herein from my own experience. Of confusion, frustration and misunderstanding on all this, to 'getting it.'

    Your use of "membership" is more helpful terminology than "account." So "sign into your membership account" is better than "sign into your account," as I have seen in forums and been confused by. The monthly subscription is for the "membership;" the "account" is just one of the features that comes with the membership. Membership includes other benefits as well, such as access to 1Pwd on all platforms (Mac, Win, And, X (ok, not really a platform)), and the eternal sunshine of free upgrades, including all minor and major version releases. And this points to where I think I, and maybe other like me, get hung up.

    Here's a place where I think people like me get tripped up: "I bought a license and you gave me free upgrades but this must-have upgrade I have to pay for all of a sudden?!"

    Part of the misperception lies in not being able to 'see' the product, only it's effects (GUI, UX -- both at least a mild negative during a learning curve being 'forced' upon the customer). If people like me could see the developers' scrum room walls and the source code they'd understand how many person years it took to get from 1Pwd4 to 1Pwd7, and why that should not, in fact cannot sustainably, be work included in a one-time license purchase.

    Another misperception may lie in some misunderstanding of the difference between a minor version upgrade and a major version upgrade. Licenses include minor version upgrades, like 1Pwd4(Win) v4.0 to 4.1, 4.5, 4.7 (whatever, I'm making up examples), or 1Pwd7(Win) beta, to v7.0, to 7.0.1, to 7.0.9, to 7.1. The fact that 1Pwd "1" users got a free bump to 1Pwd4 was a total gift because that's a jump of multiple major versions. Major version numbers only change after a huge amount of work. I understand that in the case of 1Pwd7 it wasn't even a re-write of 1Pwd4: it was a clean-slate product grown from the ground up.

    Note to self: vXX.YY.ZZ is major version XX, minor version YY, and subversion ZZ. TYPICALLY (I'm speaking very generally; not in anyway for AgileBits!): increments in ZZ are usually small enhancements or fixes, increments in YY are feature enhancements or interface changes, and incrementing XX means a big overhaul or re-write.

    It's like CAR version 1.0 = brand new Corolla. Version 1.0.1 = rotate tires. v1.0.2 = change oil. v1.2 = new tires. v1.2.1 = replace flat tire. v2.0 = all-over professional candy-apple red paint job with racing stripes. v3.0 = new racing engine. v5.0 = replace chassis with performance racing chassis and suspension and racing tires. (notice the major version jumped two levels due to the extra work (I note that it is a three-level jump from 1Pwd4 to 1Pwd7 )).

    Full disclosure: For my own reasons, I'm still currently a standalone user, having just bought a 1Pwd7(Win) license and, separately, a 1Pwd7(Android) license. Yes, with licensing that is **two **purchases.

    Apologies for having written such a long note; I did not have time to write a short one.

  • romadromad Member

    On the Mac side, 1Password 4 was released in October 2013, 1Password 6 was released in September 2015, 1Password 7 was released in May 2018 (AFAIK, there wasn't a released version 5). So there were 23 months between version 4 and version 6, then 32 months between 6 and version 7, for a total of 55 months or 4.58 years between version 4 and version 7! Of course there were incremental releases between the major releases.

    My take on the car analogy is: Car 1.0 is Model Year 2006, 2.0 is MY 2007 , 3.0 is MY 2009, 4.0 is MY 2013, 6.0 is MY 2015, and 7.0 is MY 2018 where each car is the same model ("Mac") but each major release is a brand new "car".

  • BenBen AWS Team

    Team Member

    Thanks for the feedback @Steve_R. I've been questioned about my usage of the term "membership account" as to some it seems redundant, but you're right: there is a distinction (albeit a thin one). I'm glad to hear it helped make the picture more clear for you.

    All of the confusion you speak of is one of the primary reasons we're no longer advertising licenses. Though the model we have for them is very typical for the software industry a large portion of customers simply don't "grok" it, and frankly it is an overly complex system (by necessity, as you point out). Membership greatly simplifies things, removes barriers to entry, and makes 1Password more accessible to folks who aren't accustom to buying and managing software licenses. Imagine trying to explain everything that you went over in your post to someone who has never bought any other software before. By the time you get through the first couple sentences their eyes have likely glossed over and if they haven't died of boredom they almost certainly aren't going to buy the software anyway. It is just too much to think about. OTOH... "1Password membership gives you everything you need."

    Apologies for having written such a long note; I did not have time to write a short one.

    Ha! 🤣

    Ben

  • BenBen AWS Team

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    @romad

    1Password 5 for Mac was released 10/2014. Analogies are hard, and I don't think there is a perfect analog for digital goods and services like 1Password, but if those analogies help more then hurt... :+1:

    Ben

  • romadromad Member

    Thanks, Ben. I tried to find a release date or notes but couldn't.

    True, but I didn't think that repainting a car equated with a major 1Password update (unless the release was only for eye candy). My thinking is along the line: AgileBits = Mazda, 1Password = Miata. But I didn't use Mazda for bodywork on my Miata.

  • brentybrenty

    Team Member

    Thanks, Ben. I tried to find a release date or notes but couldn't.

    @romad: You kind of have to scroll a lot, but it's all here:

    https://app-updates.agilebits.com/product_history/OPM4

    Cheers! :)

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