Additional question to Syncing/Sharing a non primary vault [Resolved]

Hi @iCoco,

You can indeed store your secondary vaults within the 1Password folder of your Dropbox. The tricky part comes in when you are sharing vaults with another user. Here are a few things to keep in mind:

• Shared vaults will need to be stored in a sub-folder, as the keychain itself is not shareable. Sub-folders are also important to ensure that you enable sync to the right location. With multiple .agilekeychains floating around in Dropbox, we want to ensure that you don't click on the wrong one and accidentally merge vault data.
• If your 1Password folder is already shared, you cannot share folders inside
• The shared folder will show up in the root of the other user's Dropbox: if you have /Dropbox/1Password/Work/Work.agilekeychain and you share "Work" with someone, they're going to end up with /Dropbox/Work/Work.agilekeychain (this is due to Dropbox's design)

I'm sorry that I don't have a perfect answer for you here, but I hope this helps you to get organized - I'm a big fan of minimizing clutter myself :)

Hi @iCoco,

I apologize if I've confused you here! If you and your wife already share a Dropbox account, sharing isn't going to be a big issue here. Because this is a public forum though, I wanted to be sure that anyone else coming across this thread would be aware of the potential issues.

Are syncing and sharing different different things or the same?

Syncing and sharing are different. Dropbox syncs your data between all your devices so that changes made to your data on your main computer show up on your iOS devices, and vice versa.

Sharing would come into play if you and your wife have separate Dropbox accounts. If you wanted to share a vault across two Dropbox accounts, you would need to share a folder between the accounts so that you would both have access to the 1Password.agilekeychain datafile.

(As an aside, you can tell if any folders in Dropbox are shared by looking in Finder. Regular Dropbox folders just look like folders in any other area of Finder. Shared folders have little people on them.)

What I intend to do now is install additional 1Password apps on my wife's iMac and iPhone. Then set up a new vault for her (on my iMac - because I am the guy who manages that kind of tricky stuff . And then share this vault with her iMac and iPhone.

Ok, just to clarify here before we get into the detailed steps:

• Will your wife have her own primary vault that is separate? Or will her only vault be the one that you are setting up on your computer?

Hi @eastlaker,

I'd be happy to help get you sorted out here, but I'm hesitant to provide any steps before I know a little bit more about your 1Password ecosystem:

• Could you please tell me the version numbers of both 1Password and your operating systems for all computers and devices running 1Password?
• I'd also like to know the details of your desired set-up, ie: my primary vault is synced to these devices, and my wife's primary vault is synced to these devices, and these secondary vaults live here.
• Are you sharing a Dropbox account or do we need to set up a shared folder between two Dropbox accounts?

Once we know a little bit more about your set-up, we should be able to get this set up in no time!

Hi @iCoco,

Thanks for getting back to me with those details. Since you and your wife have your own Dropbox accounts, we are going to have to deal with the 'sharing' that I mentioned earlier. Even both the keychains are currently stored in your Dropbox, Dropbox doesn't currently allow for multiple accounts to be enabled on a computer at a time (unless you have Dropbox for Business). So, we'll need to share a folder between your Dropbox and your wife's and then store her mywife.agilekeychain file in that shared folder.

Here's what we'll do:

• On your wife's iOS devices, open 1Password 4 for iOS, tap Settings > Sync > Sync Service and choose 'Disable Sync’.

• On the Mac, open 1Password 4 for Mac and go to your wife's vault, and click the 1Password menu, then Preferences. Click Sync, and click Change syncing.

• Check the box to remove the data from Dropbox and confirm that you want to disable sync.

• Restart the Mac and iOS devices.

• Follow the instructions here: share a non-primary vault to share a folder between your Dropbox account and your wife's. (Please note that you can create this folder inside your 1Password folder if you would like to keep things organized ... as long as you are not already sharing the 1Password folder with another Dropbox account.)

• Allow Dropbox to fully sync.

• Now, when you open 1Password on your wife's iMac, it will be able to see the keychain in the shared folder in Dropbox and will prompt you for the Master Password of her vault.

• On your wife's iOS device, ensure that she is logged in with her Dropbox account. Open 1Password 4 for iOS and set up Dropbox sync.

I hope this makes sense, but if you have any questions, please let me know - we're here to help!

Hi @iCoco,

To keep things tidy, may I create the new shared folder inside my 1Password folder?

You may create the 'mywife' folder inside the 1Password folder as long as you are not sharing the 1Password folder with someone. (I'm fairly certain that you're not, but I just need to put this out there for other users who might stumble upon this thread.)

It's interesting that this sharing thing isn't necessary on iOS but only on OS X ...

Does your wife have the Dropbox app installed on her iOS device? I'm betting she doesn't. If she did, 1Password would default to her Dropbox account when looking for keychain data. If she doesn't use the Dropbox app on her iOS device, then 1Password will prompt you to enter the username and password for a Dropbox account where the data is stored. Then it's just as easy for you to enter your details there instead of hers.

I hope this makes sense ... and that your setup goes smoothly. :)

You're most welcome, @iCoco, on behalf of @Megan.

I'm happy her excellent support helped you see clearly … hopefully even through those goggles your avatar's wearing. :)