Feedback on the new 1Password mini

I forgot to mention, please add a way to re-center the min window after dragging it around. Kind of like how you can long-press the spotlight icon in the menu bar to recenter spotlight.

I thought I'd share my feedback as well. Like a lot of people here, I think the 'mini' is now too big. There isn't enough difference between the mini and normal. It's like having an iPhone Plus and an iPad Mini.

With the latest beta update, I now can't move the mini window around. It opens in the middle of the screen and has no way to drag it into a useful position. 1Password also doesn't up at login now for some reason.

You can click and drag the top of the window to move it wherever you want.

@brenty Until you mentioned this, I had no idea! I had tried to drag the window several times, by clicking in negative space under the Password Generator or on the Categories title, or by clicking and dragging in the 1Password search field itself, or by using three finger touch on a touchpad.

I would love if dragging worked more like Spotlight, where the window can be dragged right from the search bar or other negative space.

Other than that, I think moving Identities above Credit Cards will be another positive move when that happens in a future release. Overall, I'm continuing to really enjoy the new 1Password Mini.

@brenty

I apologize if I'm misunderstanding the context here, but it appears that you're searching in 1Password mini. At that point, it isn't showing you results based on the current webpage (which will only happen if the browser is focused anyway), but rather based on your search term.

Now, I agree that there's room for improvement in search and suggested in general, but it doesn't seem like that's reflected in this case. Please let me know if I've misunderstood though, or if there are more concrete steps to reproduce what you're reporting.

Well, I'm searching from the browser just the way I used to ( same shortcut, ⌘ \ ) - and I have 217 Google logins in my vault (I'm an IT Consultant) so searching them is the only practical way to use 1Password Mini. It was invoked the way it always has been (shortcut), and as you can see, in v6 it used to still provide the suggested logins... So it sounds like this is an unintended side effect of a new model (being that 1Password Mini is available "everywhere all the time"... which is fine, except when you invoke it from a browser plugin I'd kinda expect it to still work the way it did. 🤷‍♂️)

But I did also want to mention that the purpose of ⌘ \ working globally now is that it, well...works globally to match logins. Just try it in iTunes or the App Store. We can't integrate with those, but it's very helpful nevertheless. ;)

I'll try that, but given I only use my own login there, and it's 2FA, password filling is of minimal use given I can copy and paste as I've always done for the couple of times a year I need to. Perhaps 1Password mini could be made intelligent to know when it's in a browser (doesn't seem unreasonable) and when it's not...? Or give us the option to use Cmd-Opt-\ as in the past for "global mini"?

Either way, all I can say is it's incredibly frustrating to not be able to just search and then hit enter (i.e. hit cmd-\, type 4 letters of person's name, hit return to autofill as the top entry was always the right site's login. This used to be the workflow I'd do hundreds of times a week across many different websites... now I get other logins for that same name offered before the one for the site I was on before I invoked 1Password mini... 🤷‍♂️

@brenty ... Ok, I don't really understand what isn't clear from my screenshots / previous descriptions but I'll try again as this change is driving me nuts and wasting heaps of time.

I use 1Password mini to autofill logins in websites. It usually can't autofill automatically because I have multiple logins. Previously, it helpfully showed my favourites at the top of the list, and then others logins for that site below it. I could search that list, and the logins matching the search pattern that matched the current page (that I'd invoked Cmd-\ for) would be grouped at the top.

This is what I did on v6:

1. Find myself at a login page
2. Press Cmd-\
3. Type a string (in my screenshots "mark p" above) to limit the list of logins
4. On v6, all the logins that match the search string which are for the current page were grouped at the top (look at the screenshot above)
5. Arrow cursor down (almost always a single stroke down) and hit return to autofill that login
6. Login would complete6.

On v7 that workflow doesn't work.

1. Find myself at a login page
2. Press Cmd-\
3. Type a string (in my screenshots "mark p" above) to limit the list of logins
4. On v7, all logins that match the string are shown, but logins that match the current page are not grouped at the top
5. Now I need to actually process what each login is, mentally, and press the down arrow a different number of times every time to find the right one. In the screenshot above, for example, the top entry is "Open and Fill" in a new window, but the second option is "Fill" this window. 1Password knows that the second option can fill the current page, those entries just aren't being grouped at the top the way they used to be.
6. Once I find the right login, I hit return and it works.

So the issue is at Step 5 with the way search results are grouped. This has changed from the old way. Hopefully this helps.

@brenty

I'm not certain we can do that, but I agree that might be good. However, someone else raised the possibility of using the lock screen for moving the window. What do you think of that?

Now that you mention it, dragging from the lock screen seems like a good workaround. At the time, it wasn't immediately obvious to me that dragging the lock screen would affect the positioning of the unlock screen. (Although it's obvious in retrospect.)

Still, I hope the developers are able to come up with a more draggable approach in the unlocked mini as well. Given that the designers seem to have taken some inspiration from Spotlight, it would be nice to see them adopt some of spotlight's "draggability" as well. ;)

@ben: I hope that it's a bug. I prefer the v6 behavior that @jaysee_au expects. His use case is a compelling one.

Hi @Ben,

I assume that before you ship version 7 a modification to allow the mini window to be reduced in size will be made?

hi @Ben,

IMHO, that will be a poorly judged decision. I am finding the size very distracting and annoying on a 12" MacBook. On the other hand, it will keep the forum busy!

hi @brenty,

I have said my piece - the mini takes up a disproportionate amount of room on a 12" screen but is fine on an iMac. I know it is not a bug.

All I wish is for is the flexibility of altering its size to make the mini smaller - presently you make only make the mini larger.

I trust I am not asking too much relative to your justified reasons for wanting to ship the product?