Rich Icon submissions

Good Evening,

Is it possible to "submit" Rich Icon suggestions to Agilebits for consideration?

I have a respectable collection that may be of some use to other users.

Thank You!


1Password Version: Current, MAC ios
Extension Version: 4.6.3
OS Version: ios, MAC
Sync Type: Families

Comments

  • rickfillionrickfillion Junior Member

    Team Member

    Hi @cruise2001,

    Thanks for writing in. Unfortunately there's no good way for us to do that. If you know of any big sites whose icons we don't have or that the ones we have are out of date, you can let us know and we can try to get those updated.

    I'd love for us to have a better system for those things.

    Rick

  • Hello,

    I've complied a list. When I get a moment, I'll post it here. It seems many entries simply grab the favicon. Favicons are icons, but not 'rich'. :)

  • rickfillionrickfillion Junior Member

    Team Member

    In some cases, you're right, we've grabbed the site's favicon. In many cases we used the highest resolution icon available (usually the apple touch icon), and in some cases we've actually redrawn the icon if it was a big company that didn't provide high resolution artwork that we could find for the icon. It's a rather manual process from our end.

    Rick

  • The small images on a sites Twitter page work most of the time. Dimensions are correct and design works well.

  • FrankFrank

    Team Member

    I appreciate the additional information, I'll have to pass that onto Rick :+1:

  • rickfillionrickfillion Junior Member

    Team Member

    That's an interesting idea. I don't think we considered that. Thanks! :)

    Rick

  • XIIIXIII
    edited March 2017

    The small images on a sites Twitter page work most of the time. Dimensions are correct and design works well.

    Do you mean their Twitter avatar? Or something else?

    I have been manually adding the Twitter avatar for many sites without a rich icon, so I would love it if 1Password could do that (semi) automatically for me...

  • FrankFrank

    Team Member

    That's my assumption @XIII, as Rick mentioned, it's an interesting idea and we'll have to look into this a bit more. :+1:

  • I have added about 30 this way. I'm unsure if it is referenced as an "avatar", but it's plausible.

    If 1Password were able to automate this process, the time saving would be exponential.

  • JacobJacob

    Team Member

    We did indeed grab favicons at one point, but now we're adding things manually upon request and demand. I'd really love to automate it, but doing so in a great way is tough. Favicons are typically low-resolution (16px square, perhaps 32) and don't look great in the app the way they are. Touch icons can be better, but not every site has them. I've personally been constructing some icons based on logos from companies just because the actual icon they have is only 128px square. We want it to look good, to match the 1Password experience. :)

  • FrankFrank

    Team Member

    Hi @Safety - Thank you for letting us know about the additional icons. We'll work on this and make sure to follow-up with here once this has been completed. Keep us posted if you have any additional questions and enjoy the rest of your day :smile:

    ref: AGW-374

  • jimthingjimthing
    edited October 2017

    (see related thread: https://discussions.agilebits.com/discussion/comment/396738 for complaints on how users are supposed to understand Rich Icons, et al.)

    Why there isn't a comprehensive list of organisations/URLs, with or without the actual Rich Icon next to them, is anyone's guess. Surely this isn't a copyright issue, as fair use applies in CA (and US/EU/most of the ROW).


    Missing ones that all have login's to access their services (AFAIK they're all missing decent Rich Icons):

    http://www.theaa.com – original UK version of the US AAA vehicle breakdown service.
    https://www.channel4.com – major terrestrial UK TV broadcaster, with catchup service "All 4" (previously "4OD") uses same domain.
    http://appleinsider.com – news site.
    http://www.axa.co.uk – major insurance company.
    http://www.baxters.com – large food brand, with connected login shop.
    https://www.beatport.com – online music shop.
    https://caffenero.com – large coffeeshop chain.
    https://www.creditexpert.co.uk – major credit reference agency (Experian group).
    https://www.dustygroove.com – medium sized Chicago-based record store & warehouse, sell internationally.
    https://www.esure.com – major insurance company.
    https://www.geox.com – international shoe/clothing shop/brand.
    https://www.gocompare.com – major financial comparison site.
    https://www.myhermes.co.uk – major UK delivery company.
    http://www.gateway.gov.uk – the UK govt services portal, inc. HMRC tax (UK version of the US IRS).
    https://www.hungryhouse.co.uk – food delivery company.
    https://www.juno.co.uk / https://www.junodownload.com – online music shops.
    https://eservices.landregistry.gov.uk – the UK govt land/buildings records site.
    https://data.gov.uk – the UK govt open data site.
    https://www.noddle.co.uk – a UK credit reference agency.
    https://www.rac.co.uk – major competitor to the AA vehicle breakdown service (see above).
    https://www.ryanair.com – major EU low-cost airline.
    https://www.sainsburys.co.uk / https://www.sainsburysbank.co.uk – major UK supermarket / their major banking arm.
    https://screencastsonline.com – Apple products' learning subscription site.
    https://www.shazam.com – audio recognition service.
    https://www.shiply.com – UK shipping service comparison finder.
    https://www.themoviedb.org – IMDB's major competitor.
    https://tvcatchup.com – a UK terrestrial TV streaming service+app.
    https://www.zara.com – massive international clothing retailer.

  • (...awaiting my comment to be "approved"...)
    ...brilliantly inefficient system, as I now can't actually edit the comment to clarify points made, anymore! ::annoyed::

  • brentybrenty

    Team Member

    @jimthing: Thanks! And I hope you'll understand that a post with that many URLs looks pretty spammy. ;)

  • Hi, is there any update on the possibility of crowd-sourcing (with manual approval) of the rich icons? I don't have a mac so I can't use the manual icon adding, I think either more comprehensive rich icons or the option for adding custom icons on windows (ideally both! :P) would be very beneficial for making 1Password a better product.

  • brentybrenty

    Team Member

    @ajh0912: No. It's something we might be able to do down the road, but there is literally no facility for this in place in any of the apps or on our servers. So it's a "someday maybe", and not something that can happen short term.

    That said, custom icons are coming to the new Windows app. We definitely want this too. I can't say exactly when, but we've already got some of this in place under the hood so it's just a matter of having the time to flesh it out once we have time around all of the other features we're working on there. ;)

  • nuvsnuvs

    @Frank @brenty I'd also like to make a request for rich icons for two domains at my company: globoforce.com and globoforce.net.

    I have a hi-res icon you can use—do you want me to post it here?

  • XIIIXIII

    No. It's something we might be able to do down the road, but there is literally no facility for this in place in any of the apps or on our servers. So it's a "someday maybe", and not something that can happen short term.

    Maybe you can hire an intern to do this?

  • brentybrenty

    Team Member
    edited April 2018

    @XIII: Anything is possible. But when we hire people we tend to put them to work on things that are closer to the top of the priority list. And regardless I'm not sure it would be wise to have an intern digging into the code across all platforms.

  • brentybrenty

    Team Member

    @nuvs: I'm not familiar with those. As mentioned previously, our focus is on the top 1000 sites or so, but feel free to shoot us an email at [email protected] with them and we'll see if we can add it to the database in the future. :)

  • nuvsnuvs

    @brenty Thanks, will do!

  • brentybrenty

    Team Member

    :) :+1:

  • afoxafox

    Please update your icon for http://www.bankofthewest.com they did a rebrand last year.

  • jin_dhaliwaljin_dhaliwal

    Team Member

    Hello @afox,

    Thanks for letting us know!

  • jimthingjimthing
    edited January 29

    Updated to latest v7 sub, but still can't work out how to use/manage these sodding icons...

    1) How can users tell which entries in our current logins list are a "Smart" icon (generated by 1P) vs. ones we may have imported ourselves previously ages ago?

    2) When the icon is old / wrong / has been updated to a newer/better/clearer one (or doesn't have one at all); how can users deal with this?

    3) If a login doesn't have an icon appear automatically on edit>saving, how does a user know if there's a Smart one available from 1P, or whether we have to add one ourselves if we want one?

    Such a small thing's functionality is all so hidden from proper implementation documentation on site, as to end up being completely bloody annoying to use and deal with!! And don't just reply with 'you shouldn't have to worry about it as a user' because that means absolutely nothing whatsoever. Sort it out.

  • BenBen AWS Team

    Team Member
    edited January 29

    Hi @jimthing

    Frankly these features aren't as built-out as you're expecting / wishing for. The idea is to give the user a visual hit as to which item they are selecting. To that end we primarily focus on about the top 1000 web sites on the internet. As there are billions of websites, and it isn't uncommon that companies change their branding, it isn't practical for us to devote a lot of resources to tracking down much more than that. To answer your questions:

    1) How can users tell which entries in our current logins list are a "Smart" icon (generated by 1P) vs. ones we may have imported ourselves previously ages ago?

    The only way I'm aware of to do so is to edit the item, click the icon, and tap delete. That would remove any custom icon and replace it with the current Rich Icon if one is available. If you want to keep the change, hit save. If you don't, hit cancel.

    2) When the icon is old / wrong / has been updated to a newer/better/clearer one (or doesn't have one at all); how can users deal with this?

    If it doesn't update automatically you can force a refresh by turning rich icons off then back on.

    3) If a login doesn't have an icon appear automatically on edit>saving, how does a user know if there's a Smart one available from 1P, or whether we have to add one ourselves if we want one?

    I'm not sure I follow. Can you provide an example? If you save a Login item with an appropriate website field, and we have a Rich Icon for that website, as long as you have connectivity to our service a Rich Icon will be put in place at the time of the save action. If that isn't happening we either don't have an icon for the website specified, or you aren't connected to the rich icon server. In the latter case turning rich icons off then back on when you are connected should do the trick.

    these sodding icons...

    and

    Such a small thing's functionality is all so hidden from proper implementation documentation on site, as to end up being completely bloody annoying to use and deal with!! And don't just reply with 'you shouldn't have to worry about it as a user' because that means absolutely nothing whatsoever. Sort it out.

    Was that really necessary? The folks in this forum are here to try and help you. The attitude you bring reflects in the attitude you'll get back. If you want our customer service folks to advocate for your position we'll be much more inclined to do so if you're being courteous.

    Ben

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