Password generator - V7.3 - MAC

Hi @elvis69

Every time I ask for a new password, it copies and saves a card with just a password that accumulates in 1password. If we create multiple passwords and ultimately we don't use them we end up with dozens of temporary passwords stored unnecessarily. WTF

This hasn't changed. :) It has worked that way for quite some time. 1Password automatically cleans these entries up if you save them into a Login item. You can read more about this function here:

If you used the password generator and can't find the password to sign in

I see that many people love the simplicity of the old password generator, so is there a way to rethink its new functioning?

What seems to be the difficulty, specifically? Are there websites where the password generator is generating passwords that are not accepted? If so can you please provide the URLs for those websites?

We must have managed to understand that the old and really easy password generator has become + new password.
then its use is much less intuitive and logical than before.

There has been some discussion on the wording here. We may consider changing this to "Password Generator" or similar, but then seemingly everyone will have to re-learn again. :) So, discussion continues, with no decision as of yet.

Thanks for taking the time to share your thoughts.

Ben

Thank you for your feedback @chiefpoints! And welcome to the forum!

The workflow has gotten considerably harder with this change, please give us the Password Generator menu item back instead of the insanity that is currently in place

Can you please let us know what makes it more difficult now? Other than the button placement, how did your workflow change in a major way now?

Hi @lysander,

Thank you for your feedback. I see that you have posted the same message in several threads, so to avoid duplicating information, I am going to reply to you just here. First of all, I am just going to say that we really appreciate you taking the time to write this feedback. Thank you!

In addition, the old menu, the one you thought we did not need or want, was very clear and easy to understand. Many of us like using mouse navigation rather than remembering and tying shortcut commands.

I think this comes down to personal preference a lot. I myself, like you, only use the mouse and I rarely use keyboard shortcuts, but I find the new version much clearer than the previous one to use with a mouse, having everything in a single window. Having everything aligned, within the same window, without having to hover over several menus, makes it much clearer in my personal opinion as a user.

But then again, I understand this is very subjective, so thank you again for sharing your thoughts!

Welcome to the forum, @AbsurdName!

So isn't possible that the group is too isolated and therefore "out of touch" with the subjective desires of a majority of users?

Anything's possible, I suppose. But I'd find this unlikely, especially given that virtually all of us here, including developers and designers, do at least some customer service in addition to their primary duties -- answering people either here in this forum or via email. That's precisely because we think it's important not just to engage the community and keep up on what users are thinking about 1Password and how they're experiencing it, but for everyone here to have the experience of doing so.

This has been true since the very beginning when new people were usually trained directly by Dave Teare. In fact, to this very day, depending on conditions and timing, you might get a response directly from Dave or Roustem (our founders) or our Chief Defender Against the Dark Arts, jpgoldberg -- and that's not to even mention the numerous developers who regularly monitor these forums and interact directly with users even more frequently. So, while we can certainly always do better - and we strive to - I think the idea that we're "out of touch" with the desires of "a majority of users" isn't too likely. I'd also remind you and anyone else reading this thread that what you see on these forums -- even in threads that are several pages deep -- represents a very tiny fraction of a user-base that's now in the multiple millions. That doesn't mean we don't take feedback from people who post here seriously (if we didn't, we wouldn't bother maintaining these forums), only that what seems in the context of these pages alone to be a "majority" can often be far from that: a tiny but vocal minority.

Thanks for stopping by and leaving your thoughts here; we encourage you to continue to participate -- just remember that, while we won't always pursue every suggestion that gets raised here, we're always grateful for the feedback. Cheers! :)

@AbsurdName: Ironically, much of the criticism of the new design is that it is less complex than what we had before. ;) We'll continue to listen to feedback from you and everyone else as we develop future versions. And, if you have specific questions about what something means or how to do something else, just let us know. We're happy to help. :)

@AbsurdName: I did comment on that:

when features change, you could provide clear explanations as to why and explain the potential upsides and downsides. For example, I was unaware of 1PasswordX until today when I came across the term on the Website. There is a lot of specific jargon and there aren't always hyperlinks to the glossary or to explanations. You could add those. You could also improve announcements of changes, possibly with pop-up explanations.

if you have specific questions about what something means or how to do something else, just let us know. We're happy to help. :)

@alexwoolfson: Likewise, thanks for your feedback! Adding an autofill option to the new password generator is something we're working on as we speak. We just want to make sure that it works well. :) I think it's actually the same amount of mouse clicks now, but if you can give a specific example of something we might be overlooking I'll be happy to investigate -- whether that be a site with particularly troublesome password restrictions, or something in 1Password's UI.