What versions of the apps support old lifetime licenses? (We started with 1P Mac v5 and 1P Win v4)

Hello, Agilebits!

We started with 1P Mac v5 and 1P Win v4 back in the fall of October 2015.
We're a school, and back then we purchased "lifetime licenses" under your education purchase plan.

We've been VERY happy with our purchase—AgileBits rocks—thank you!

In 2019 our team is still the same size—a four person "band."
We're still syncing our vault through Dropbox.
We'd like to onboard a new "band member" who is replacing an outgoing "band member" who left to take a new "gig." :)

Ideally, we'd like to rock out with the latest apps possible and keep running with our old lifetime licenses "...until the wheels fall" off so to speak.

Given all of the above, and our undying love and support...

What are the most current versions of the apps that support old lifetime licenses? (for macOS; Windows; iOS; ...Android)

(From Ye Olde purchase receipt...)

1Password Mac + Windows Bundle (Educational License (1 user))
1Password 5 for Mac (Educational License (2 users))
(And I think I picked up a fourth license in a Parallels Desktop bundle.)

Thank you so much!

Some of your biggest fans,

SS and team in Toronto, Canada


1Password Version: 6.8.9
Extension Version: 4.7.5.90
OS Version: osX 10.13.6
Sync Type: Dropbox
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  • BenBen AWS Team

    Team Member
    edited September 2019

    Hi @neptunetech

    Thank you for taking the time to write in, and for your long time usage of 1Password! It is great to hear from customers such as yourselves who have been with us for quite a while and are looking forward to progressing with us.

    Licenses are sold on a per-person, per-platform, per-version basis. They never expire, so in that way they are "lifetime," but generally they do not include upgrades. We do try to be generous where we can, and so v4 -> v5 -> v6 (on Mac) was all actually included in the same license. The latest version your current license would be good for is 1Password 6 for Mac (and 1Password 4 on Windows, for the bundle license), while v7 is the newest. 1Password 7 requires either a separate license purchase or a 1Password membership. We're no longer advertising licenses, but they are available for customers who are already familiar with that situation and are comfortable with the "DIY" approach they offer. I'd highly recommend taking a look at 1Password membership, which will give you access to the latest versions of 1Password for all of your compatible devices (no more separate upgrade fees). You can read about the benefits here:

    About 1Password membership

    1Password 6 for Mac and 1Password 4 for Windows have been retired and are no longer being updated. As a security focused company we'd always recommend running the latest versions of all of your software, but especially your operating system, web browser(s), and 1Password. As mentioned above, licenses never expire, and so you can continue using any version you've licensed for as long as it works for you, but getting the latest is going to be the best path. As things continue to evolve around the now retired versions it will be less and less practical to continue using them. For example, the upcoming Safari 13 will be using an all new extension framework, and as such will not work with 1Password 6 for Mac. Especially for a group such as yourselves that might like to share some 1Password data, are using multiple platforms, and want to keep up-to-date, membership makes a lot of sense.

    I suspect our 1Password Teams offering is going to be the most suitable and economical for your small group, but if you'd like to discuss the various offerings in more detail I'd encourage you to reach out to our business team at [email protected]. They'd be in the best position to elaborate and evaluate your specific situation. They'd also be able to discuss any potential promotions or discount opportunities.

    I hope that helps. Should you have any other questions or concerns, please feel free to ask.

    Ben

  • Hi, Ben. Thank you so much for your prompt and thorough reply.

    With your guidance I think my team is up-to-date as much as we can be for now.

    In the meantime we'll consider our options, new version license versus subscription.

    A thought / request...

    If it were available, and the price made sense over the long run, we would consider a lifetime [edu] subscription if you were to offer one. :)

    Cheers,
    SS and team

  • brentybrenty

    Team Member

    As Ben mentioned above, we haven't and don't plan to offer licenses that would include all future updates, as, much like an educational institution paying staff only once for work in perpetuity, that just wouldn't be sustainable. But I'd encourage you to reach out via email as suggested above so we can discuss your school's needs in detail, and see what will work best. :)

  • I have to say that using the term "lifetime license" for those of us that purchased them in the past was at best misinformed. A lifetime license--which some companies offer when determining the sustainable price point for selling such licenses--entitles the purchaser to upgrades for the lifetime of the product. The use of "lifetime" in the name is in reference to the software, not the license purchaser, as it's only possible for a software company to "control" the lifetime of the software. Based on the descriptions I've subsequently seen from 1Password Team Members, the appropriate name for the license we received is a "perpetual license," which entitles the purchaser to use the version of the software purchased for as long as desired or until no longer supported.

    I've purchased multiple upgrades despite being disappointed in the mislabeling of the initial license I purchased--very early on in the product's life--and the expectations I had when doing so. What has given me pause in doing so going forward is the tone used by 1Password Team Members in other posts suggesting that those of us upset about the licenses we received being sold as lifetime licenses should have known better, and that somehow it was obvious what we were purchasing despite the company's mislabeling of the license. Please consider no longer referring to anything Agilebits sells as "lifetime" in any sense, as clearly no such licenses are sold by the company.

  • BenBen AWS Team

    Team Member

    Hi @yapishkahilt

    I'm sorry that we've upset you with the situation.

    I have to say that using the term "lifetime license" for those of us that purchased them in the past was at best misinformed.

    I would agree, which is why we don't use that term. :)

    Based on the descriptions I've subsequently seen from 1Password Team Members, the appropriate name for the license we received is a "perpetual license," which entitles the purchaser to use the version of the software purchased for as long as desired or until no longer supported.

    Agreed.

    What has given me pause in doing so going forward is the tone used by 1Password Team Members in other posts suggesting that those of us upset about the licenses we received being sold as lifetime licenses should have known better, and that somehow it was obvious what we were purchasing despite the company's mislabeling of the license. Please consider no longer referring to anything Agilebits sells as "lifetime" in any sense, as clearly no such licenses are sold by the company.

    I apologize our tone comes across as anything but sincere. We're here to help customers make the best decisions possible. We don't generally refer to licenses as "lifetime." I only used that term above in response to the OP's mention of "our old lifetime licenses," and was careful to put it in quotes.

    Back at least as far as 2012 (and perhaps earlier than that) this is what we had to say about upgrades on our store page:

    (source)

    And in fairness: I don't see any reference to the word "lifetime."

    Ben

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